patrick j miron --- the Best Joke Ever--Anyone who is sick should call the church's elders..

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DELUSIONAL ELDERS commentary of ministry of reconciliation with s patrick j Miron and a RC priest is a "Elder"

2 Corinthians 5:18-19:

“All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation;

Ed- Note


Patrick j miron is correct when he gave us, meaning everyone who is a follower this ministry.

but patrick j miron's application may be different than scripture.

that is, in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation“.

ed-note
Again we see the distortion of scripture with Patrick J Miron,


because Paul said "Jesus Christ and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation, all of us, deciples. not just roman catholic priests.

ED-note patrick "quotes it differently"




Note that St. Paul says his is a ministry of reconciliation;


it is, therefore, not merely a message. He actually does a service in order for the people to get reconciled to God. This is only explicable by admitting that he acted as a confessor--that is, people came to him, confessed their sins, and he absolved them.

¹⁸ And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation,

¹⁹ to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them, and hath committed unto us the Word of reconciliation.

2 Corinthians 2:10-11:

What I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ, to keep Satan from gaining the advantage over us; for we are not ignorant of his designs.

Wow! Here St. Paul says he has forgiven people's sins....


ed-note
the "Lord's Prayer" where it says's forgive us of our Trespasses as we forgive others" Bla, Bla,Bla





Patrick j Miron continues with :



and he even explains that this was in the name of Christ, that is, he was present in him. It was, then, not Paul himself who absolved, but Christ acting through Paul. The addendum "to keep Satan from gaining advantage over us" might beyond that actually indicate that Paul was aware of the graces that are obtained through the reception of the sacrament of Penance.

There is also an appeal to confession in 1 John 1:9:

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

St. John is very plain here. He says it flat out.

Once again Pat J miron doesn't seem to comprehend that  God will forgive us with out having a Roman Catholic priest present.

James 5:14-16:

Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.

Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects.

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Patrick J miron delusion with a priest : Here we have an example of forgiveness of God through a priest in action.

St. James tells us that, if we are sick,


Patrick J Miron ; main thesis, is  that priests are elders and only they can be the channel for forgiveness.

we are to call for the priests (=elders) of the church.

Are all Elders priest's-- no not the case..

The is a direct Delusion belief and commentary of Patrick j Miron.

(it is also related to John 20:19-22, where forgiving sin's is what a disciple can do)

By the prayer of that priest, the sick person's sins will be forgiven; that's what the text says plainly!! Then James goes on to say, "Confess your sins to one another."

The is another basic Error of Patrick J miron the scripture actually reads as follows

James 5:13-17

New Century Version (NCV)

The Power of Prayer

 ¹³ Anyone who is having troubles should pray. Anyone who is happy should sing praises.

¹⁴ Anyone who is sick should call the church's elders. They should pray for and pour oil on the person^[a] in the name of the Lord.¹⁵

And the prayer that is said with faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will heal that person.

And if the person has sinned, the sins will be forgiven.

¹⁶ Confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so God can heal you.

When a believing person prays, great things happen.

¹⁷ Elijah was a human being just like us. He prayed that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three and a half years!

^{And Just Who is the ELDERS.. ???
1..   When you look at the exegesis of the time , you will find out the "Sanhedrin " was one body the was considered to be the Elders}
The greatest irony, and tragedy, of the Sanhedrin is that they were devout men who truly sought to obey God - but had become spiritually blinded by their own ambitions and traditions.


¹⁴ Anyone who is sick should call the church's elders..

but what does scripture say?

Titus 1:5 ESV / 12 helpful votes

This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you—

Acts 14:23 ESV / 12 helpful votes

And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed.

Acts 20:17 ESV / 10 helpful votes

Now from Miletus he sent to Ephesus and called the elders of the church to come to him.